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May 03, 2024, 06:28AM

I’m Not Even Hungry

A 1990 Bob Gulla interview with musician Kurt Cobain vs. a 2008 Richard Nixon Presidential Library interview with speechwriter William Safire, Jr.

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William Safire, Jr.: You've got to take your fork and cut down, right down the seven or eight layers and then take a spoonful or whatever it is and you see the confluence of flavors.

Kurt Cobain: I'm not even hungry.

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Safire, Jr.: Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it.

Cobain: When they're afraid of what's in front of them they always look back. You know what I wanna see?

Safire, Jr.: It was a tightly held secret. And everybody smiled, but nobody watched what they said because I was an old-timer.

Cobain: Yeah, but I don't know what they're about. I don’t know.

Safire, Jr.: Yeah. That was one of my assignments.

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Cobain: Chalk one up for capitalism. But in sixth grade I realized, "Wow, my whole life really sucks. Everyone I know is an asshole."

Safire, Jr.: They'll starve to death, or they'll have to commit suicide or whatever.

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Cobain: I get tired of reading real descriptive prose, so I've lately taken to reading everything Charles Bukowski has written. That’s scary. You have to psyche yourself up.

Safire, Jr.: But two drinks and he—his voice would become slurred and he was quite relaxed.

Cobain: He's a fun-loving guy. That comes before anything else; it comes before philosophy, image or playing live.

Safire, Jr.: Yeah, he would occasionally talk about that as one of the six crises. I never saw anything that would suggest that.

Cobain: You don't have to believe it, but you can write it.

Safire, Jr.: Absolutely. The silent majority is an old phrase meaning dead people.

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